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Re: [kent-grads] Any university's collegiate system fading?
- Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:26:06 -0000
- From: "Tim Roll-Pickering" <T.C.Roll-Pickering@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [kent-grads] Any university's collegiate system fading?
Looking through the response it seems clear that by the 1980s at least the
colleges meant increasingly little more than a place where some people lived
on campus - and even then not all of them. By my time (1998-2002) the food
was very diverse - only two of the dining halls were ever open at any one
time and there was a clear distinction between the Rutherford and Keynes
provision (and I too mourn the Keynes burger bar, despite not having been in
Keynes). Then they shut down Keynes and replaced it with a reactivated Eliot
which was little more than the Rutherford overflow... Each bar had a very
different atmosphere too and again attracted students and staff irrespective
of college.
From what I can tell it seems the main reason for such a decline is the
steady erosion of college based activities and services, combined with an
ever increasing proportion of students not living in their college buildings
(I remember one fuss when Rutherford and, I think, Eliot were declared
non-smoking, to the uproar of would be finalists who had got rooms in
"their" college and couldn't change. Similarly some colleges have double
and/or en suite rooms - again something that all students should naturally
have a chance to have, not just those in the right college. Is this one of
the reasons why the accomodation doesn't even maintain the link anymore?) By
my time most students who wanted to watch television on campus had sets in
their rooms and so at the end of my second year the television rooms were
scrapped. I'm told there were once college libraries but there certainly
weren't by my time. People eat in whichever facility is the best for their
needs. The Junior College Committees organised some events in the colleges
but to be honest they either did not attract much attention or became big
events for the whole campus (e.g. Keynestock). This left the JCCs as
increasingly halls committees though there were some who fought the tide.
Whilst some departments were still located in college buildings (e.g.
History in Rutherford), it just felt that they had been given a block of
available space and not that Rutherford was the History college (and the
name's utterly inaccurate, though at least Economics had the sense to be in
Keynes!).
Perhaps most tellingly students did not chose their college, unlike at
Oxbridge and Durham (and possibly York and Lancaster - I have no knowledge
either way) whilst the tutorial system was departmentalised and increasingly
nominal (I saw my tutor twice, both in my first term and thereafter it was
the department office or a lecturer who would give any help). As a result
the colleges meant absolutely nothing academically - I don't think they were
mentioned once at either of my graduation ceremonies and other than casual
conversation with other Kent alumni I've never been asked which I was in.
Tim,
(History BA 19981-2001, Propaganda, Persuasion and History MA 2001-2002,
or Rutherford 1998-2002!)
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